I will try not to get to far out there with my update to this echo, but its not
easy.
Again thanks to everyone who is taking interest in this topic, I think its a
great topic and maybe it can generate and inspire innovate thoughts for some
problems with the current internet, the information age, and how to continue to
enable everyone to be more free with information sharing and obtaining.
I really wanted to reply to some of you because all of your thoughts are good. I
even find the argument about this echo a nice addition to the general problem
with the current internet. Because this echo has a number of responses Its
really difficult to quote each one and highlight some of the things I found
pretty interesting. I'm not that good with echo mail yet.
I also didn't really want this to be about a debate be rather get a census for
current ideas and thoughts related to if I'm the only person out there who
things the current internet, search engines, social media is really dumbing down
the public who is using it. I don't use most of social media, evident by my post
here and no other place. I think the current political and corporate climate is
not safe to post ones thoughts generally. In addition the idea posts becoming
immortal within the internet and used to evaluate individuals based on current
and emerging trends doesn't lend well to candid or constructive views.
Examples are where you post anything about a fun night you had out could impact
your ability to be promoted. Or CNN will come look for you and start a campaign
to make your current and future life and ability to advance your lot in life a
nightmare or impossible. With this thought in mind I don't believe the
information age as arrived nor do I believe the current internet was meant to be
as it it. The folks at CERN had a different idea compared to global commerce,
but those in the commerce and banking industry found the internet an efficient
means to move information.
I had some thoughts to add to all of yours.
1. we all have an opportunity to make the internet a better place. As some have
pointed out the internet is what you look for.
2. I really think talking about the internet not just the small % of it we see
available via major search engines but additionally those parts that are not
available.
I also wanted to highlight some aspects of availability, access to, and
presentation.
availability is a huge aspect of information that will be consumed
generally.
I find this similar to schools teaching our children.
Its not really the fault of the ignorant that they are ignorant
Those who are not have a general responsibility under society's
egalitarian hope, with solidarity to guide those that are
ignorant. Not for the benefit of literate but for the benefit
of both literate and ignorant. There is a mutual benefit. Often
corporations and governments see this as consent to benefits in
a way where those receiving should pay, or give more than they
receive so govs and corps can profit and transfer wealth from
the masses by any means possible.
Good and valid information should be available and easy to find
This really makes all the difference in the world.
Those in North Korea with there 26 websites vetted by their
government have little to no chances as responsible ignorants
of finding and obtaining valid information to enhance their or
anyone elses lives.
Our youths in poor public schools have less opportunity based on
terrible educations compared with those in rich affluent regions
access; without it no way anyone can use the information if it did
exist. Here we see this often. In America many research
initiatives are funded via tax/government assistance. These are
things like cancer research, many scientific research
initiatives
all become unavailable to the general public; even though, the
public paid for it or a portion of it. Although with $$$ an
individual can obtain such information but generally no.
presentation; this is where things like yahoo.com and google.com
generally present a small % of the internet to the mass public.
here is where you search for things and those who have accounts
with google and other search providers show up at the top of
the search results. This is how the shopping from google starts
, now I realize this isn't for every search result. The other
interesting fact from presentation is how malware is injected
from paid advertisements that show at the top of the hit list
via banner adds and other forms that internet criminal organi-
zations pay to google and google and other major providers help
perpetrate cyber-crime against its users.
If I present 1 beer (budwiser) day and night to you, when some
person says lets get beer the first thing you will think is
budwiser. This is the concept that presentation guides and
creates markets that may not have existed before. If I offer
something I can create main channel markets and sub channel
profits. This is exactly what has occurred with gmail and why
there are large class action suites against google and yahoo.
In part this is a sub channel market that the legal demographic
is tapping into, those firms will make mass $$ compared to those
who were hurt by the actions of the primary market.
Now I thought I would address more related to responsibility of the users of the
internet.
Because I feel this goes in 2 directions I believe people have a responsibility
to not just do what they can, but do what they should. Part of that is about
providing valid information. I can't recall how many cancer cures I've seen that
appear absolutely ludicrous or coconut oil for vaginal health, and a myriad of
things that are virtually impossible for the general person to disprove or
research for utter lack of a lifetime at the computer and the lack of a research
group. People have a responsibility to provide valid information not for making
money but for providing information to people for the good of everyone. The
current trend is for commerce. People think how to make money at youtube. Look
up a video and what do you hear, ??? don't forget to subscribe, and like, and
share, ...etc. Solicitations for commercial generation. The internet for free
information should and could be free.
Take the FDA stance on sugar being healthy based on lobbyist that causes a mass
epidemic world wide. The sugar industry isn't forcing people in general to eat
sugar per say but propaganda combined with government support has degraded the
health of millions, whereas if the sugar industry not only produced their
government backed studies on the subject and had unbiased scientific information
without profits in mind, and why federally funded info isn't available.
These aspects are the concepts that govern the control of information within the
current mainstream internet based on the laws of the current technology. The
visible controls shrouded in legalsleeze are what is binding people to stupidity
and driving them towards a consumer age never seen before, compared with genesis
and intent of the internet; information age. Difference is the hunters vs the
hunted, we are the hunted and not being equipped to be hunters. private data
mined that is provided by the people is studied and although that information
you are providing is no longer yours, permanent, and used against you to create
psychological hooks for you to continue to provide information and pay for
consumption, based on EULA and other laws.
I think some of these things we are talking about highlight some causes of the
dumbing down of information to continuously create a desire to consume
entertainment and anything easily persuade general public to spend money and
provide nothing of value, and if value in information is provided its quickly
disputed or perceived to be invalid to maintain the focus on spending money and
having people provided feed back for corporates to understand how to get every
person to continue to consume their products, weather its healthy for consumers
or not.
Things like distributed computing mentioned by others is such a great example of
reshaping the internet and with that thought in mind allows people to start
redefining search engines and capabilities that take the power from a single
person or corporation and put it into the hands of the people, at least until
someone or some government tries to usurp it.
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