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Subject: Re: Partition question Date: Mon Jul 13 2020 11:46 am
From: Ky Moffet To: Lee Green

LEE GREEN wrote:

> -> I wonder if your boot partition is actually D: due to being historically
> -> the original boot location. That is, even tho Windows says it lives on
> -> C: the boot files are in fact on D: I would check that, just in case.

> Boot partition is on C:

One more source of weirdness eliminated...

HOWEVER, don't trust Win10's say-so on that. It ALWAYS calls itself C: 
no matter where it really is. Before I got another stack of small drives 
to play with, I had Win10, 2008R2, and Win10Lite on the same drive (4
partitions, those three and one for data).... and had to label the 
partitions so I could tell where the hell I was, cuz whichever one I 
booted to called itself C:, and I couldn't convince Win10 and Win10Lite 
to put different names on the boot screen.

[Win10Lite uses about a third less RAM, but otherwise is not worth the 
bother. You can probably achieve better using BlackViper's configuration
tweaks.]

> -> Given that... I think rather than trying to nuke these partitions, I'd
> -> settle for resizing them as small as they'll go, and just eat the drive
> -> letter. That way IF there are boot files in some unexpected place, you
> -> won't accidentally nuke your system.

> I'll probably just leave them I played around with it for awhile and got
> D: to go away but left the space unallocated so I went back to it being
> D: drive. I'm going to sell it anyway.

I just bought a stack of 250GB laptop drives... found a guy who often 
has 'em in bunches, low hours and NO bad sectors, for about $12 each. 
Not worth a lot anymore, but handy to have the spares, and SSDs aren't 
enough faster to justify the extra cost for drives-for-experiments.

Sadly, my experiments often wind up being permanent installs! So then I 
need another stack of drives. :P

> -> XP and before would stay put -- if you installed it on F: it would STAY
> -> on F: -- but Win 7/8/10 rewrite the boot sector and assign themselves to C:
> -> even if that's not the system's original C:  (Note how if you select
> -> another OS from a current multi-Windows boot menu, instead of
> -> immediately starting that Windows, like in the olden days, it restarts
> -> the machine first. Far as I can figure out, that's cuz it changes the
> -> boot sector instead of just pointing at the chosen OS, so it has to
> -> reload the whole thing.)

> I haven't multi booted since XP or earlier it's just to complicated
> these days and I'm getting to old to want to deal with it.

Yeah, same here (other than when I ran out of spare SATA drives and 
needed one for the above experiment, which wasn't intended to be kept 
but needed it for something else, then something else, so crap, just 
keep the durn thing!) -- I seriously do NOT want to deal with Adventures 
in Boot Sectors. And considering it now has to reboot to switch OSs, 
with the hotswap bay it's just as fast to swap the HD!

So Fireball now has a stack of five HDs and growing... *sigh*


> -> I use this for 2.5", using random laptop HDs as boot drives:

> -> https://www.newegg.com/istarusa-bpn-2535de-sa-hot-swap-rack/p/N82E168162153
> -> 66?Description=istarusa%20hotswap%20bay&cm_re=istarusa_hotswap%20bay-_-16-2
> -> 15-366-_-Product

> Bad URL above.

I think your mail client must have mangled it; it still works for me. 
However, here's the three I mentioned, Tiny-fied:

http://tinyurl.com/y752kn2l
http://tinyurl.com/y7na8khr
http://tinyurl.com/y9yn4zg9

> -> > I've just been using a USB to 2.5 SATA
> -> > interface to mess and boot with this drive.

> -> I have one of those too ... and thereby accidentally discovered that a
> -> cloned Win7 will happily boot from a USB hard drive. I thought that was
> -> supposed to require a bunch of hoop jumping, but apparently not, at
> -> least if it's an actual HD/SSD, and not a flash stick.

> I cloned the W10 HDD to SSD using it.

Yep, handy for that... if you don't have a 2nd hotswap drive bay! :D

BTW beware of Win10 and USB-attached HDs... I've had it zero out the 
partition table and then it's "Would you like to format this drive?"

I *think* it's seeing an older version of NTFS and silently "fixing" it. 
But I'll never ever again trust it with an external data drive. (Or for 
that matter, any data drive that Win10 didn't prep.)
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