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Subject: Holy Smoke! Date: Wed Dec 29 2021 08:49 am
From: George Pope To: All

What happened? This used to be one of Fido's busiest echos & now it's EMPTY???

I was in here some 20+ years ago, having a grand time pointing out errors in
assumptions to atheists & theists alike. . .

I know "God Dan" is hanging on Facebook these days, but he's about the oly ne
I've seen since Y2K. . . oh, the lady whose name I always forget, but who was a 
feisty debater!

Anyone left in here willing to give it a go & put your stance up for public
discussion/polishing?

It used to be all about flaming believers, but I don't like that model -- I'd
rather see it be a place to discuss different viewpoints of the universe,
including the non-physical, equally "real," aspects. . .

& for all to take part in pointing out errors in consistency(with one's own
arguments, with history, with science, with others of their belief sector,
etc.)

Fine, I'll start; have at it;

I was raised without a denomoniation, mostly as a Golden Rule adherent (Do unto 
others as you'd prefer they do unto you.); I went to a Baptist Sunay School
only because it was the closest that believed in thevalue of the family.

I spent my first 22 years as a stolid & offensive athiest.

After my brain injury & partial paralysis in 1990, I had time to reflect (&
more importantly, listen) & realized that God(as a general, non-sectarian
concept) is real; the only metaphor I was familiar with was Christianity, so I  
startred there, studied much with others & on my own, & became just as virulent 
a promoter as I'd been of atheism.

I've always been honest, t hough, & open to new facts, even if they counter
those I believe to be solidly proven.  I kept asking questions (as is my nature
 
-- Curious George is real) & eventually ran into too many non-answers or
contradictory ones about Christianity.  This led me to slowly discover & study  
Judaism.

In Judaismn I was delighted tolearn they're not about pat answers -- a question 
is as liable to ghet 10 new questions in return as an answer(said answer
usually leading to other questions, too); I loved this -- more learning, more
study.

When I got to the point that my Jewishness was as much a part of who I amn, as  
is my maleness (I'm pre gender-fluidity), I went through formal conversion to
Judaism.

My practice/observance of it is evolving, but my Jewishness is still 100% real
& sincere.

I still keep up the learning, of religion(s), sciences, history, & 'most
anything else that catches my interest.

Go ahead attack any of this.  If you use presuppositional arguments on any
angle, I'll tell you right now: you're wrong.

AMA as the kids say. . . :) 

But I prefer a friendlyu discourse over a flame-ladebn one, but if you prefer
the latter, be ewarmned, I grwew up in Mission, BC, I can give as good & better 
than I get without even expending any real mental effort.

If I put the effort in, I'll reduce you to a puddle of quivering & ashamed mess 
of wrongness.

Or have some laughs -- crack wise, tell jokes, be funny, be punny. . . 

The echo is utterly empty, I can't see there being any hard & fast rules here.

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