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Subject: Re: Partition question Date: Mon Jul 13 2020 12:50 am
From: Ky Moffet To: Lee Green

LEE GREEN wrote:
> -> LEE GREEN wrote:
> -> > I also have an old recovery partition that I want to get rid of and
> -> > recover the space to C:

> I guess I should have mentioned it's only 250GB and MBR.

Oh, I took 2.5 to mean 2.5TB, not 2.5 inch. Scratch that explanation!

> The D: partition is 10GB that I would like to get rid of and return the unused
> space to the C: partition.
> I also want to get rid of an old leftover recovery partition on it.

Okay, now that makes more sense. The recovery partition might be hidden.
Doesn't explain D: tho UEFI will grab a bunch of space for its own use.

I wonder if your boot partition is actually D: due to being historically 
the original boot location. That is, even tho Windows says it lives on 
C: the boot files are in fact on D: I would check that, just in case.

Given that... I think rather than trying to nuke these partitions, I'd 
settle for resizing them as small as they'll go, and just eat the drive  letter.
That way IF there are boot files in some unexpected place, you 
won't accidentally nuke your system.

XP and before would stay put -- if you installed it on F: it would STAY 
on F: -- but Win 7/8/10 rewrite the boot sector and assign themselves to 
C: even if that's not the system's original C:  (Note how if you select  another
OS from a current multi-Windows boot menu, instead of 
immediately starting that Windows, like in the olden days, it restarts 
the machine first. Far as I can figure out, that's cuz it changes the 
boot sector instead of just pointing at the chosen OS, so it has to 
reload the whole thing.)

This is very annoying (and another reason why I don't even think about
multibooting Windows anymore) not to mention every time it rewrites the 
boot sector is another chance to screw it up, so also stupid. I don't 
care what their logic is; I'd heard of multiboot Win10 setups making a 
mess, and now I know why.

> -> I no longer mount drives internally; now I use iStarUSA hotswap bays. SO
> -> much easier, especially since multiboot no longer works right with
> -> Windows (and is risky now that it rewrites the boot sector when you
> -> change OSs, rather than just pointing at a different one), and was
> -> always risky if you cross species lines and multiboot Windows and linux.
> -> Now I just swap the boot drive, and every OS uses the same data drive
> -> (formatted NTFS).

> Sounds interesting got a URL, 

Here's a whole bunch of different ones:
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=istarusa+hotswap+bay

I use this for 2.5", using random laptop HDs as boot drives:

https://www.newegg.com/istarusa-bpn-2535de-sa-hot-swap-rack/p/N82E16816215366?De
scription=istarusa%20hotswap%20bay&cm_re=istarusa_hotswap%20bay-_-16-215-366-_-P
roduct

and this for 3.5" data drives:

https://www.newegg.com/istarusa-bpn-de110p-black-hard-drive-cage/p/N82E168162159
01?Description=istarusa%20hotswap%20bay&cm_re=istarusa_hotswap%20bay-_-16-215-90
1-_-Product

in whatever color is cheapest, new or used. I've accumulated EIGHT of 
each, and now put them in every system. It's to where if I don't have 3 
or 4 in the parts stack, I think I'm out. :)


I also got this one to use as a sort of poor-man's NAS:

https://www.newegg.com/istarusa-bpn-de340hd-silver-hdd-hot-swap-rack/p/N82E16816
215766?Description=istarusa%20hotswap%20bay&cm_re=istarusa_hotswap%20bay-_-16-21
5-766-_-Product

It's supposed to go in the 3 top 5" drive bays but doesn't fit because 
of the case's own HD supports. I don't care because I got it to use as 
an external drive case anyway, via cables dangling out the back of the PC.

The 3.5" bays can take SATA or SAS drives, tho SAS drives of course will 
need to attach to an SAS port or card.

The single-bay units seem to be just pass-throughs, but the multi-bay 
units have electronics to stagger drive startup so it doesn't overwhelm 
the power supply.

> I've just been using a USB to 2.5 SATA
> interface to mess and boot with this drive.

I have one of those too ... and thereby accidentally discovered that a 
cloned Win7 will happily boot from a USB hard drive. I thought that was
supposed to require a bunch of hoop jumping, but apparently not, at 
least if it's an actual HD/SSD, and not a flash stick.
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