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Subject: Old School Date: Sat Jan 11 2025 12:01 pm
From: Accession To: Dumas Walker

Hey Dumas!

On Fri, Jan 10 2025 14:53:00 -0600, you wrote ..

 DW> Actually, I made the initial comment because someone brought up
 DW> learning to do what could be considered "trade work" at adult/
 DW> continuing education classes.
 > It was not really meant as an anti-union swipe, but I do suspect
 DW> that those types of classes are frowned on by unions (and
 DW> professional groups and government agencies) because someone can
 DW> learn to do work without (1) being properly licensed and
 DW> apprenticed, and (2) paying licensing fees or dues.

I'd imagine my union (or myself personally) doesn't much care about any kind of
classes you can take. What you do in the field is what makes you a good (or bad)
worker. You can have as many degrees as you want, to make you smart on paper,
but if you can't actually do it in the field, you're useless to me.
 > I think that is pretty much SOP so I didn't see it as a swipe.

I didn't either, to be honest. I just know "dues" are one of the major arguing
points of anti-union people, and wanted to make it clear that dues are a very
small drop in the bucket.
 > I had never heard of that union before I worked there, so the
 DW> opinion I formed of that particular union is not good.
 > Neither of them were the UAW, BTW.  ;)

Maybe not, but the UAW did have a major part in starting the negativity towards
unions. And what happened because of it has probably directly reflected many
other shop unions, to this day.
 > My point being that some of them are good for their members, and
 DW> some really are not.

Agreed there. And the ones that are not may be better off not being a union,
since that is the driving force behind them (looking out for their workers,
etc).

Regards,
Nick

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