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Subject: Re: BBS community improvements Date: Wed May 29 2024 04:28 pm
From: Gamgee To: fusion

-=> fusion wrote to Ravne <=-

 fu> On 28 May 2024, Ravne said the following...

 Ra> I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is
 Ra> considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered
 Ra> my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn
 Ra> well right, we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone
 Ra> else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything
 Ra> that straight people expect for themselves. Pride is about normalizing
 Ra> our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in
 Ra> everyone's face".

 fu> this has to be a joke. easily the largest source of violence
 fu> against your community is from within. domestic violence is huge
 fu> .. why do you hate each other? everything you read will say the
 fu> violence is perpetrated by a "partner" .. what sort of parter do
 fu> you expect a gay person might choose? everyone is so desperate to
 fu> make it seem like random straight guys are going around beating
 fu> up gay (or trans or whatever) people for fun.

 fu> do you know how hard it is to find modern recent examples of "gay
 fu> bashing" like you want to fearmonger? wikipedia, the source for
 fu> all things bullshit, repeatedly will use wording like "in some
 fu> countries" and other vague wording.. do you know how large the
 fu> USA section of the Violence against LGBT people page is? And half
 fu> of it is COPE about "ohh, it's because nobody reports it" ..  and
 fu> you know what happens when you lot have nothing to complain about
 fu> in the US? "well, it's still happening somewhere on the planet!"
 fu> ..

 fu> it gets even more annoying when it's like "this homeless gay
 fu> person was robbed! gay homeless people are more likely to be
 fu> robbed! like 95%!" .. imagine i robbed 100 people and 5 of them
 fu> were gay.. a perhaps generous estimate of the % of people in the
 fu> US who are gay.. do you see how that skews that statistics?
 fu> almost every homeless person gets robbed. holy cow all the
 fu> homeless gay people got robbed, we have to do something about
 fu> this violence against queer people!

 fu> then you keep getting at how "words are violence" .. you
 fu> repeatedly lump the word "fag" in with "pedophile" and "groomer"
 fu> the first is an insult against a  trait that can't be changed.. a
 fu> part of who you are, as some people insist. but the second two
 fu> it's obvious you would want to defend against. but if you remove
 fu> the second two we have the two options here:

 fu> "fag" <-> "straight white men"

 fu> these are traits that can't be changed, and your usage is meant
 fu> to degrade and demean. do you make fun of the handicapped?
 fu> perhaps people with speech impediments? bash a few redheads now
 fu> and again? these are now both traits protected under the Civil
 fu> Rights Act btw.. but talking about progress is lame right?

 Ra> with that  opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to
 Ra> convince anyone here of anything, I'm really not sure why I even keep
 Ra> responding. Except, maybe there's an LGBTQ person out there that's been
 Ra> afraid to come out & maybe seeing my posts will help them be less afraid.

 fu> i know why you keep responding.. because that's exactly what you
 fu> came here for. you're like those people who on their first day
 fu> joining twitter are trying out their hand at some bullshit
 fu> trolling only to be dunked on by a bunch of spergs with anime
 fu> avitars. you didn't want to be a part of this community, which is
 fu> why you set yourself apart from it in the beginning. "if it
 fu> wasn't for a few BBS women back in the day who told me everything
 fu> will be okay because you're a woman" .. fuck off. i was going to
 fu> ask if you wanted a parade for that, but that's exactly what you
 fu> want.

 Ra> leopards eating faces are straight people that pretend to support gay
 Ra> people just long enough to try to get us to let our guards down. ---

 fu> this is mental illness. if you're afraid of people like this.
 fu> fear of what's around every corner.

BRAVO!!  BRAVO!!!

I purposely quoted this entire message because I like it that much.  
Spot on accurate!  Jesus I'm so freakin tired of the drama-assholes like 
the recent one we have here.  Also known as trolls; hopefully to be gone 
soon.

Again, well written and thanks!



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