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Subject: Health Postings Date: Sat Aug 22 2020 07:51 am
From: Barry Martin To: Daryl Stout

Hi Daryl!

 DS>   The data was obtained from the WebMD website, and I give credit
 DS> to such in the monthly summary posting. It's like doing a term
 DS> paper, and giving the needed citations/credit to it. I will add
 DS> this to the batchfiles for it.
 BM> That might work.  ...
 DS>   I also note that "this information is NOT meant to replace
 DS> visits with your primary care physician, or with the associated specialist.
 DS> Yet, many folks don't want to set foot inside a
 DS> doctor's office...mainly because they don't want to be seen naked
 DS> (never mind the medical bills). However, the BEST time to go to
 DS> the doctor is when one "feels healthy". Many diseases have no
 DS> symptoms in their early stages.

Yes, definitely agree on the not wanting to go if nothing is wrong:
seems like a waste of time.  OTOH as you stated a lot of times 'early
detection is best' as they say.  And I see myself daily, as as most
changes occur slowly I am accustomed to the alterations whereas someone
like my doctor seems me once every six months or so and these changes 
become more obvious.



 BM> I don't know: that paragraph referenced downloading 'personal, non-
 BM> commercial use' but I couldn't find anything allowing nor disallowing
 BM> redistribution.  There is a 'fair use' copyright clause (in Copyright
 BM> Law) but this seems to overstep, or at least eventually it would.  As
 BM> much as I'd like to see the material here I'm thinking no because of
 BM> eventual legal issues for ILink.  If you or someone else can provide
 BM> reference to the contrary I would allow -- some lists/posts have a
 BM> 'freely distributable' statement.
 DS>   OK, I won't do it then. It's in the local message board, but
 DS> it's restricted to verified users in good standing, who are at
 DS> least 18 years of age. Years ago, there were 2 separate areas on here...one
 DS> for the men (The Barber Shop) and for the ladies (The
 DS> Beauty Shop), where those of a certain gender could discuss
 DS> certain things. I did the men's area, and my late wife did the
 DS> ladies area.

I'm not opposed to the discussions which could cite WebMD as a source, 
just uncertain on the constant unsolicited postings.



 BM> Agree, though we're on the side of "it's OK when necesssary".  There
 BM> are some religious customs which contradict medical -- guess 'examinations'
 BM> would be a suitable word here.  Student friend from New Jersey refused to
 BM> remove a metal religious necklace during a cervical X-ray - got into an
 BM> arguement with the radiologist.  Another student friend was Mormon and wore
 BM> whatever the one-piece underwear is called; created problems for physical
 BM> examinations.
 DS>   Well, to me, if it's going to help me keep good health, I'll do
 DS> it. Not to turn this into a religious debate, while wearing a
 DS> mask to protect from COVID-19 is NOT "the mark of the beast" of
 DS> Revelation 13, it shows how easily people will give up their
 DS> freedom for "peace and safety". Yet, there were other plagues
 DS> throughout history...even around the time of World War I...and
 DS> they didn't go as ballistic as they have with COVID-19.

I'm thinking a lot of people are searching for any excuse to (or not to)
wear masks, socially gather, etc.  And the problem is each person in
their own mind is right.  I've seen on the Internet some what I and a
lot of people consider rather extreme (read: 'silly') methods for I
guess what could be termed self-preservation: wearing 5 gallon water
jugs over their heads, wearing scuba gear....  Well, out of the
ordinary, yes, but wearing a rubber suit, face mask, and breathing
uncontaminated air does make sense.

As for the sign of the beast, seems people are looking for answers and
trying to make sense out of potentially random occurrences.  I'm
thinking sort of the 'Nostradmmus craze' several years back, or the
world was going to end because of the Aztec (or was it Mayan?) calendar.
Or some gamblers will always enter the room with their left foot first,
turn right... the ritual seems to help them win and so if they didn't
win they did the ritual incorrectly.

As for the 'going ballistic', I'm thinking part of it is a phase of 
general thinking and another part can be blamed on rapid communication. 
Used to take weeks if not months to get information from one side of the country
to another, one continent to another, now everyone can 
livestream instantly. 

I'm thinking more along the lines everyone has personal rights but they 
also have social responsibilities, and lately too much 'me' and not 
enough 'us'.



 DS>   I personally would rather have the females working over my
 DS> groin, buttocks, and elsewhere...not because I want a cheap
 DS> thrill (they aren't getting one), but they tend to be gentler
 DS> than their male counterparts.
 BM> I can think of a few - umm - remarks but I don't dare post 'em!
 DS>   Sort of like the actual comments from folks undergoing
 DS> colonoscopies; such as:
 DS> 1) Would you tell my wife that my head is not up there??
 DS> 2) In Arkansas, we're now legally married. <G>
 DS> 3) Did you find Amelia Earhart yet??
 DS> 4) If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. :P

You forgot the one about playing Proctoscope Racer! <g>  


 DS>   In short, if you're not proactive on your health, you're sure
 DS> to be sorry.
 BM> Seems a lot of people don't know a thing, or figure popping a pill will
 BM> solve.  Some run to the doctor at the sign of a hangnail while others
 BM> will 'tough out' a kidney stone or heart attack.
 DS>   I'll agree that everyone has different pain tolerance levels.
 DS> If it's a 3 or below, I'll tough it out...but any more than that,
 DS> it's time for a pill, or a trip to the ER.

There was a joke between the HR person and I (we had worked for each 
other other the years as jobs changed and evolved) some of the employees
at the store would call off due to a hangnail.  OTOH there were some of 
us who came in or stayed when we should have stayed or gone home.



 BM> As much as I tend not liking to go to various doctors I do think it is
 BM> a good thing to have the 6-month or yearly check-up.  I see and deal
 BM> with myself every day; the doctor every few months.  Something slowly
 BM> evolving may be unnoticed by me because I observe me constantly whereas the
 BM> doctor see a 'snapshot' over a long period of time.
 DS>   This is true. Plus, I felt better knowing that while I may have stretched
 DS> that hernia surgery mesh deal from the coughing and
 DS> sneezing attack, it was "firmly in place". Basically, better to
 DS> be safe than sorry.

Yes, definitely.  Especially after surgery and some 'unusual event' 
(your sneezing attack) -- if no pain/tenderness or 'something odd going 
on' probably no need to have things checked but as you didn't feel right
it was a very good idea to have things checked.  Good news was nothing
was wrong (other than a bit of stretching of the mesh) but if it had 
ripped or loosened it would have been best to have it repaired earlier 
rather than later.
                  
Sort of along that line I'm glad for the 'Convenient Care' facilities 
popping up: lots of "I don't feel right" but getting an appointment with 
a doctor might be a couple weeks off, or even not needed ==> sprain: 
does need to be wrapped but 'anyone' can do it.


 
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