Hello Dmitry,
On Saturday August 03 2024 01:37, you wrote to me:
DP> Just imagine your salary as an engineer at a nuclear power station is
DP> so low at the end of the month that it doesn't even cover your monthly
DP> public transport ticket. How much time would you spend worrying about
DP> democracy versus how you are going to feed your kids?
Not having the money to pay for food for kids is a very good reason to not have
them in the first place. Nuclear power plant enigineers should be smart enough
to figure that out for themselves...
Not having enough money to live is a very good reason to be interested in
politics because it is politicians that have the power to actually do something
about it. Nuclear power plant engineers should be smart enough to figure that
out for themselves...
[..]
MV>> I don't believe that. Russia has produced famous artist and
MV>> scientists. Don't try to tell me that there were no economists.
DP> We had the same problem with telecommunications. Not enought experts.
But you had engineers for the nuclear power plants.
MV>> This wasn't meant as a personal attack. By "you" I meant the
MV>> plural, the people who didn't vote against Putin when they still
MV>> could.
DP> You probably just don't understand: it doesn't matter how people vote. What
DP> matters is who is counting their votes.
That is not how it was in the early days of Putin when he still could be voted
out.
DP>>> In Russia, we had Fidonet as a great example of democracy. Many
DP>>> of my friends still talk about democracy as something from the
DP>>> Fidonet era! (I'm not joking).
MV>> Ha, so there is where it went wrong. You thought Fidonet was a
MV>> democracy... That explains a lot... ;-)
DP> Fidonet is a democracy :)
Yeah right, keep on dreaming.
MV>> Not much different from The Netherlands when The King was the
MV>> ultimate ruler..
DP> It was like.. 200 year ago?
Until about 150 years ago...
DP>>> In reality, it was quite different. We had actual slavery in
DP>>> place. The culture may have been the same but it was a culture
DP>>> of the elite. The average Russian lived like an African slave
DP>>> with no rights, in his own country.
MV>> Not much different from how it was in The Netherlands 200 years
MV>> ago.
DP> So people in Netherlands 200 years ago were slaves??
For all intents and purposen: yes. What I am saying is that just like in Russia,
or in most other parts of Europe the culture was a culture of the elite. The
average European lived like an African slave with no rights in his own country.
So don't give me all this bla bla in answer to the question why you did not vote
Putin out when your still could. I think you have already given the answer: You
were not interested in politics.
[..]
DP> How many citizens of the Netherlands chose to die fighting when Nazi
DP> Germany occupied your country? How many of your relatives died
DP> fighting Germany?
You loose: Godwin's law.
Cheers, Michiel
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