x) Monday Mar 18, 2024, 09:11. alexander koryagin ── Alex Shuman.
AS>> No, it was revolution, after he ran away from his people.
ak> "Revolution" is another word for "coup" or mutiny.
It depends... This one was certainly people's will and not a military coup.
ak> BTW, the attempt of
ak> capture the Capitol, after Trump losing the elections, is very similar
ak> event and is considered in the USA as a heavy crime.
It because they were minority (most of people did not support their ways) and
attacked government buildings instead of peaceful protest.
ak> Again and again -- law is very important! Yushchenko won Ukrainian
ak> president elections in 2005 (defeating Yanukovich), and then _everybody_ in
ak> Ukraine excepted it. Because it was a legal event. Russia also had no
ak> motive to to interfere.
Then Yanukovich won, then people got tired of him and his anti-people politics,
then Russia decided to interfere.
AS>> It was not the native people, it was paramilitary Russian groups,
AS>> then Russian army.
ak> Protasov told me about a group of 50 paramilitaries who entered
ak> Ukraine then. But it was in vain, unless local people fight also. As
ak> for the real Russian army -- it was not in Donbass until 2022 because there
ak> are no reports it used aviation, long range rockets as it does
ak> now. It is funny to think than somebody sends his army to somewhere
ak> and prohibits it using heavy weapon.
Most of fighters were from Russia. They used Russian weapons.
ak>>> Russia could not stay away, whoever was in power there, unless it
ak>>> lost conscience and proud not defending those Russians in Ukraine.
AS>> They could have just accepted all those Russians back, not to
AS>> invade foreign country.
ak> If to be true, it must be said that during the USSR time at least 40
ak> percent people in Ukraine were Russian people. After Ukraine became
ak> independent they were ordered ;-) to consider themselves as Ukrainians
ak> and it was the shame and a time bomb. In short it is a crazy idea to
ak> suggest to millions of Russians in Ukraine go to Russia. They live on their
ak> own land and defend it.
Well, they either could go to Russia or accept their Ukrainian citizenship, not
to invite Russia to start a colonial war. Also, don't mix Russian-speaking
people with Russian citizens.
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