Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 15.03.2024 21:17
ak>>>> Surrender can be different. If less idiots have been in Kiev
ak>>>> they could have ordered the Ukrainian army not to do a single
ak>>>> shot.
AS>>> If less idiots have been in Kremlin they could have ordered the
AS>>> Russian army not to enter Crimea and other parts of Ukraine in
AS>>> 2014...
ak>> Lawful, elected President of Ukraine had been outthrown by the
ak>> mob,
AS> No, it was revolution, after he ran away from his people.
"Revolution" is another word for "coup" or mutiny. BTW, the attempt of
capture the Capitol, after Trump losing the elections, is very similar
event and is considered in the USA as a heavy crime. Again, we can note,
that for some people in the USA it was not a crime. Similarily, the
Ukrainian nationalists from western Ukraine don't think they commit a
crime. But as a rule every revolution causes a civil war.
Again and again -- law is very important! Yushchenko won Ukrainian
president elections in 2005 (defeating Yanukovich), and then _everybody_
in Ukraine excepted it. Because it was a legal event. Russia also had no motive
to to interfere.
ak>> could not pass without consequence. As I said before here -- the
ak>> people who elected the outthrown President from Crimea, southern
ak>> and eastern Ukraine had full right to be outraged, do not accept
ak>> new authority in Kiev and even fight against it, especially when
ak>> they became the target of the military suppression by the
ak>> Ukrainian army.
AS> It was not the native people, it was paramilitary Russian groups,
AS> then Russian army.
Protasov told me about a group of 50 paramilitaries who entered Ukraine
then. But it was in vain, unless local people fight also. As for the
real Russian army -- it was not in Donbass until 2022 because there are
no reports it used aviation, long range rockets as it does now. It is
funny to think than somebody sends his army to somewhere and prohibits
it using heavy weapon.
ak>> Russia could not stay away, whoever was in power there, unless it
ak>> lost conscience and proud not defending those Russians in Ukraine.
AS> They could have just accepted all those Russians back, not to
AS> invade foreign country.
If to be true, it must be said that during the USSR time at least 40
percent people in Ukraine were Russian people. After Ukraine became independent
they were ordered ;-) to consider themselves as Ukrainians
and it was the shame and a time bomb. In short it is a crazy idea to
suggest to millions of Russians in Ukraine go to Russia. They live on
their own land and defend it.
Bye, Alex!
Alexander Koryagin
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