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Subject: Re: NVMe versus SATA in desktops? Date: Thu Jul 13 2023 07:20 am
From: poindexter FORTRAN To: Tracker1

-=> Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

 PF> I have a 4th generation i7 desktop running Windows 10. It's got 16GB of ram
 PF> and a SATA SSD. I'm debating about upgrading my desktop PC, I'm looking to
 PF> upgrade to a newer (10th gen or higher CPU), more cores, and trying to buy
 PF> some extended life for my PC.

 Tr> You're going to have to replace your motherboard and ram as well... and
 Tr> even an RX 6600 is likely faster than the GPU from ~8 years ago
 Tr> (assuming it's that old as well).. so best to just plan on a
 Tr> replacement, unless you really like your case.  Your PSU may be comming
 Tr> close to EOL as well.


 Upgrading = replacing the whole kit. Sorry I wasn't clearer. I'm
 looking for a new system. BTW, I have an Nvidia GTX 1030 in my current
 system. I can get 50 fps playing the only modern game I play.

 Tr> Real world, you won't notice the difference from SATA too much.  I
 Tr> mostly notice when building large projects or doing things like a
 Tr> message scan, where you're accessing the contents of many files in a
 Tr> relatively short turn around...  For a very large web project, HDD to
 Tr> SATA SSD goes from minutes to around a minute.  Going from SATA SSD to
 Tr> Gen 4 PCIE NVME is a couple seconds.  So it depends on your usage, but
 Tr> for playing games, web, general use you aren't likely to notice.

 I have 2 Proxmox servers - my old one is a Thinkpad with an i7, the new
 one is a Dell Optiplex i5 with a NVMe. I definitely see a difference
 running VMs, wasn't sure about desktop results. I'm mostly doing web,
 office, photoshop and games here, some transcoding of media.


 Tr> That said, the pricing is on par between the two, with NVME being much
 Tr> faster in some cases.  Most current motherboards have at least 1 and as
 Tr> many as 3-4 NVME slots, so you might as well.  Bonus, no cable clutter.
 Tr>  Those last points (mb support, similar price, no cables) aare the main
 Tr> reasons I just say go nvme.

After growing up with MFM and floppy drives, I can appreciate a lack of
cables.   :)

 Tr> Things to look for are DRAM cache over "SLC" cache... the former is
 Tr> dedicated dram, the latter is a portion of memory that is using SLC
 Tr> mode for faster access...  The drives of the former being a bit better
 Tr> quality generally speaking, but again, unlikely to notice a difference
 Tr> in day to day usage.

 Tr> I'm partial to Samsung, WD Black, Solidigm and Sabrent (Rocket Line).

 Thanks for sharing! This is very helpful.




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