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Subject: Re: Election Rules Date: Sat Jun 02 2018 09:41 am
From: Carol Shenkenberger To: Kurt Weiske

  Re: Re: Election Rules
  By: Kurt Weiske to Jeff Smith on Fri Jun 01 2018 01:04 pm

 KW> Just curious - do we have proof that someone read a Z1_Election message via
 KW> Nick's system? Like, a message showing seen-bys and paths?

Kurt, I think if they had that, they'd have named the site he feeds that did it.
For all we know, he simply netmailed candidates names and the rules.  May have
routed it and depending on how others routing setups are set, may have crossed a
zone boundary.  

Routing can be simple, or can be very complex. Example: I:275/93 routes a
netmail to someone in Z3, it will come to me and pass directly to Scott Little
in Z3.  He doesnt know that, only that it will get there.

RVIA never passed but it was a simple representation of how we operate and it
would (if maintained), have shown that path.  Other options were INTRANS and
NOBOGUS that come to mind as packet inspectors.

Either way, the only thing anyone can control is a feed to that first hop, but
not what they do with it once it's on their own computer.  The only thing you
can do is remove the feed if they are 'acting up' but there's no valid way to
blame a mail mover for shipping an echo to a valid node for that echo (in this
case a Z1 sysop).  Now if one of those intentionally released information that
was not supposed to be released, thats on them.  Not the mail mover, unless they
are notified of the offending node and don't cut the feed.

Maybe I misread the note but it seemed 'someone' was clearly expressed but not
sure it was one who fed even from him.  Could have simply been someone in his
region and not even fed from him since we are all free to feed from wherever we
want.  In fact, I feed a couple of folks not in R13.  Have fun trying to blast
my RC if I had a software glitch an sent something out that I shouldnt have.
Don't even think about me being used to route netmails where the contents
weren't releaseable as I do not read intransit netmail unless there is something
'wrong' and it can't route unless I do some sort of action.

  xxcarol
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