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Subject: Re: Gaming (Windows) PC: build or buy? Date: Mon Jul 19 2021 06:45 pm
From: Tracker1 To: Nightfox

On 7/16/2021 10:21 AM, Nightfox wrote:
 >
 > That PC seems fairly decent, and you're probably right that it would
 > probably last severla years without having to upgrade.  And as far as
 > the graphics card, are you sure it's not RTX?  I don't think Nvidia
 > has an "RTS" line.  The RTX 3000 series are currently their latest,
 > and seem to be fairly hard to come by too (I've been waiting for a
 > decently priced 3080 TI; they tend to be out of stock in most places,
 > or sold by scalpers asking ridiculous prices).

It's definitely RTX for 3060 Ti.

 > If I were to build/buy a PC now, I might choose an AMD processor, as
 > they seem to have some really good processors right now and lower
 > prices for comparable (or perhaps even slightly better) performance &
 > specs than the comparable Intel processors.

The roles are pretty much reversed of where they were a couple years 
ago.  While AMD is current king in terms of best of breed, there is a 
bit of a price premium for that, so unless going for 5900X or 5950X, 
then Intel is actually a better deal at the moment for most systems.

If I were going for something with a built in GPU, it's either Intel, or 
wait a few weeks for the 5600g and 5700g to get more availability and 
for direct sales.  Otherwise, it's kind of a case by case basis.

In general AMD's 5000 series is one tier above Intel for most uses... 
ex: 5800X will go toe to toe with an 11900K intel (x800X amd vs x900k 
intel), last gen 3000 series AMD was about on par (better multicore, 
weaker single core) ... intel 11th isn't really a boost over the 10th 
gen and in some cases hotter or slower.  11400 being an exception, but
possibly a bit under-powered longer term (3+ years).

This will vary by use case, peer hardware (GPU), drivers, etc.  The 
biggest cost in that machine is really the RTX 3060, which by itself is 
selling for over $700 still, where it *should* be closer to $300.  The 
system itself would have been well under $1000 a year and a half ago.
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