Hi Nick,
> On 31 May 18 19:29:30, Janis Kracht said the following to Nick Andre:
>> Are you allowing Ward to read the echo on your system?
> No.
Good.. that is the way it should be. I have seen messages from Ward's system
for example in the ZCC echo, that were direct exact quotes from this echo...
that is why I asked you point blank.
>> Same here Nick.. and it is exactly why we don't need a Z2 backseat driver l
>> Ward getting involved who:
> Janis... whoever is deliberately attempting to coerce Phil into making an
>unsubstantiated claim about my Hub system is much more of a threat than Ward's
> ability to read an echo. The threat of being disqualified as a candidate on
>that basis will only hurt the voters in the end. Not just anyone who voted for
> me, but anyone voting. It undermines and taints all of these elections. I am
> very vocal on this because I stand to lose... without any proof whatsoever.
Nick, Ward is his OWN worst enemy.. Don't let him drag you down here... as I
mentioned earlier, Ward contacted both of the election volunteers, in one case
suggesting that Phil should allow a vote from a node, when I have right here
the regional segments showing that this node was NOT in the nodelist for the
cutoff nodelist - and in the second, it sure looks like Ward was getting a feed
from your system, or was at least able to read the messages.. Big deal? No, not
really... if reading/observing was all he was doing.... we'd all say
"so what".
But he wasn't. For instance:
In a netmail to Phil (copied to me by Phil), Ward typed:
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NETMAIL message #711 from Phil Kimble to Janis Kracht (PRIVATE) (read).
Entered on 31st May, 2018 at 07:12, 30 lines.
Subject: 1:128/2 Concerning the ZC1 election
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!MSGID: 1:128/2 5b0f99de
!PID: Msged/LNX 6.1.2
!CHRS: IBMPC 2
!CODEPAGE: 437
Hello Phil,
I understand you run the ZC1 election and I will be accused of interfering with
out of zone business, but I'm taking the risk anyway.
It has been brought to my attantion you have some issues with non-listed
voters.
You need to be aware that for quite some time Janis has been having issues with
the nodelist/dailylst generation where depending upon the date different region
segments will be used, I think it is a makenl-problem for systems under Linux
which processes certain things differently, for example wildcards. At certain
days of the week this gives an erroneous output.
It is very well possible that the dailylst created on the same date as the
nodelist you have selected for your election, carries fresher data than the
nodelist of the same day.
Therefor it is possible, but I don't know of course, that a sysop is correctly
listed in the dailylst and incorrect, or even missing, in the nodelist. If
that's the case, I hope you will agree with me, that the sysop should not be
the victim which essentially is a technical problem between two platforms
(Windows and Linux).
This is the only thing I care to say about it, and it won't be in public. It's
your call. I hope this information was useful. Thank you for being available to
run that election BTW.
\%/@rd
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Phil knows I have the regional segments here.. we've discussed my sending them
to him should a question come up regarding a listed sysop's voting or not.
It is this interference that is the problem.
> I seriously doubt anyone voting in this election can be influenced by him.
Same here, but that is not the problem.
Take care,
Janis
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