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Subject: What to do with a gia Date: Wed Feb 16 2022 08:50 am
From: Barry Martin To: Ky Moffet

Hi Ky!

 >   > Good memory!  No idea what happened - thinking maybe one of the r/w arms
 >   > broke as thought I heard a rattling.  Computer was on a UPS so shouldn't
 >   > have been a shock from a voltage surge.  <shrug>
 >   KM> I've seen a HD with a busted r/w arm (head come loose and just
 >   KM> dangling) and another with the arm disconnected entirely. So it
 >   KM> does happen!
 > In hind sight I should have opened the drive to see what happened.  I
 > know I tried a few recovery options.
 KM> If they're making noise it's one of two problems: either busted
 KM> as above, or (more often) the logic board died and it's making
 KM> the motor go clank clank clank. Logic boards can be replaced...
 KM> sometimes. Around the 40GB era that starts to be very specific
 KM> and needs an exact-match chip, or it won't work. Matching same
 KM> production batch, not just same model, and with the more modern
 KM> HDs every drive is different because the chip is programmed to
 KM> match the individual drive. There's an outfit that sells the
 KM> logic boards, and also does the repairs for under $100 or so, but
 KM> it's no longer something you and I can really do.

Right: opening would have been more to physically see the innerds as 
opposed to just seeing a picture.  If even attempted to repair I doubt I
woudl have trusted the HDD any longer.  Not doubting my repair ability, 
more the HDD failed and it shouldn't have.



 >   KM> So long as it schlepps files back and forth and stores 'em
 >   KM> reliably, it's good enough, what else is a NAS supposed to do
 >   KM> anyway??
 > Provide another source for blinkenlichten!  Actually pretty much my
 KM> LOL!
 > thoughts: just need it to store/backup data.  The only two issues with it are
 > current OSs whine about the low security version it has (can't be updated as
 > no longer supported) -- I have a work-around and don't need
 > the security.  The other is it is getting a little long in the tooth and
 > so might have some pending hardware issues.
 KM> Yeah, same reason I don't care that Bullet, who until I started rearranging
 KM> hardware was doing duty as file server, is 14 years
 KM> old. Reliable, so who cares? And unless some nullwit breaks into
 KM> my house and peers into my files, there really isn't any security
 KM> issue.

Pretty much the same here.  Actually I'm more concerned with the 
neighbour's tree falling this direction and smashing stuff than a break 
in.  (We did have a severe wind storm after the Derecho and I did move 
stuff from my desk as it's right next to the window: was a bit concerned
the window might break.)


 >   > I'm been planning to build my own NAS:
 >   KM> There exist NAS-OS images, tho I haven't looked into 'em.
 > Have found some of them and glanced through.  Some look pretty
 > impressive!
 KM> Yeah, quite competent.

But first!....


 KM> The Asustor, if I were rich and buying a NAS, looks like a really
 KM> nice unit. Since I'm not rich, some low-power PC will do. :P

I'm thinking more towards building my own mainly because I have the 
parts laying around (or at least think I have!).  As far as physical 
size, the purchasable (that a word?) versions seem to be more compact, 
which has an advantage -- the current NAS is in the basement on a 
storage cabinet under the service panel.  A too-tall unit won't fit; a  too-wide
unit is possible but have to move the UPS down there (which is 
on the cabinet.  ...Actually there's a second UPS: the one for the VoIP
(telephone service on the fiber optic line).



 >   > use some of the old/smaller HDDs
 >   > for end-directories (instead of a sub-dir on a huge/new HDD).  Some
 >   > other project bullies its way in front of the line....
 >   KM> I guess until you run out of connectors...
 > Strip and solder a few of the wires together to make Y-adapters. <bseg>
 KM> Cheat :P
 
Would work for power, probably not data. :(  <g>


 >   KM> I recall an Adventure with several bogus AData thumb drives....
 >   KM> in my observation, all the off-brand drives are crap. If it's not
 >   KM> a Big Name, AVOID!!
 > Yes, these were Adata thumbdrives.  Not sure if it's an off-brand but I
 > wasn't impressed by their customer service and so they are now on my Do
 > Not Buy List.
 KM> Looks to me like the off-brands are buying seconds
 KM> (borderline-defective memory chips) and building the units with
 KM> the cheapest logic board available. So they're bound to fail
 KM> early and often... and are priced accordingly.

The trouble was both the yellow and blue ones were Adata, 16 GB, USB 
3.0, UV128 (whatever that means).  Physically identical except for the 
colour.  Blue ones "always" worked -- I did manage to kill a couple but
seemed to be more me doing something as opposed to the yellow ones just
failing 'mid-air'.

A while back (year, maybe two) I did sort of check and the blue ones had
differences from the yellow per diagnostic/recovery utilities.  The
experience definitely soured me on Adata, so no buying anything from 
them.


 KM> At this point, in a flash drive or memory card, I'll only buy
 KM> Sandisk.
 
I've been sticking with SanDisk and Kingston.

 
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