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Subject: What to do with a gia Date: Sun Sep 13 2020 09:54 am
From: Barry Martin To: Ky Moffet

Hi Ky!

 >   KM> I've inherited a PowerEdge R510 server! great whopping rackmount
 >   KM> type monster, dual Xeon, 64GB RAM, 12 drive bays, all full (8 3TB
 >   KM> SAS, 4 480GB SATA SSDs which will be used to upgrade other
 >   KM> stuff). No OS, cuz it was using some cloud OS from which it's now
 >   KM> disconnected.
 KM> And what I ended up doing was cannibalizing it... had a loose
 KM> newer Xeon CPU, had a Lenovo S30 workstation motherboard that
 KM> uses this very CPU fall on my head; it supports both SAS hard
 KM> drives and 64GB ECC RAM... and uses about a third the electricity
 KM> for the same net horsepower. And since it's a Xeon and I've
 KM> already used Xorro as a name, it became Fireball, as in XL-5
 KM> (it's fast, it has an X, isn't logic wonderful? :)

But Zorro on TV spelt his name with a 'Z'!  Much fancier to go slash-
slash-slash than swoosh-swoosh!!



 KM> And then we had a HUGE argument getting any Windows before Win10
 KM> to install.

It hasn't learned 'new and improved' isn't always so.


 KM> The Lenovo board has an embedded Win10 license. (It shipped with
 KM> Win7; how it acquired this is a mystery. Maybe that "free"
 KM> upgrade.) It LOVES Win10. I do not. Win10 is what sent me
 KM> screaming off to linux. Win10 ate my old external HD. Win10 is on
 KM> my $#!+ List.
 
Yes, that does seem a bit odd: has a license for Windows 10 though using
and running Windows 7.  I'd probably wipe Windows all together and 
install Linux (here Ubuntu), though probably try for dual booting as
some things do need Windows.  (Wonder how one can keep Win 7 from 
upgrading?)


 KM> Win8.1 Enterprise would not install. Win8 Embedded installs, but
 KM> runs very poorly, and is very annoying. (Enterprise, which came
 KM> to me on a freebie laptop, evidently has had considerable
 KM> behavior modification, as it is much more polite than the
 KM> consumer edition.)

8.1 may have been tweaked for business before being released -- "we can 
piddle off the consumer but better not the business customer!".



 KM> Win7 would not install, tho a portable Win7 install runs fine.
 KM> (Not sure why this Win7Ultimate of uncertain provenance is
 KM> portable, but it is. Just stick it in anything, and it runs.)
 
So a permanent Windows 7 won't work but a temporary one will!  Wonder of
the 'permanent' version is designed for a specific brand such as HP and 
so is missing anything Acer needs whereas the portable version has or 
can get all manufacturers.


 KM> Better than on Silver, actually, where it's decided NVMes are not
 KM> in its future.
 
I haven't played with them yet.  SSDs, yes.


 KM> I really wanted Fireball to run XP64, because its intended job is
 KM> Poor Man's NAS, for which it needs to network gracefully and
 KM> without argument. XP64 does that, and is 100% stable. But oh
 KM> lordy, the ways the install found to fail.. got some help from
 KM> Lenovo support but turns out if you slipstream the I/O driver,
 KM> XP64 then rejects its own embedded serial number. After numerous
 KM> fails I finally gave up and switched SATA to from UEFI to
 KM> Legacy... and then we had a different set of fails, until one
 KM> attempt became confused and used the previous failed install as
 KM> its starting point -- and THEN it installed. And runs fine. I am
 KM> now terrified of having to repeat this arcane procedure which no
 KM> one understands, and have made three copies of the relevant hard
 KM> drive. <g>

Reminds be of the headaches I had with the install of Ubuntu 18.04 on 
this system because of a faulty memory module!  And didn't help this was
my first time trying to use UEFI so didn't know also needed a 'special'
partition.

And speaking of NAS, probably going to build one here as the pre-built 
device I'm using is no longer supported, plus was running short on
storage -- deleted some old-old stuff and took care of that problem!  
FreeNAS, Amahi, etc. are considerations for the new NAS.


 KM> BUT... still looking for the relevant SAS driver.. the XP driver
 KM> on Lenovo's site is the wrong one (tho their Win7 driver works). Meanwhile,
 KM> could not get Win7 on Silver to play nice with the
 KM> NVMe (the driver made Win7 throw up all over itself) but the NVMe
 KM> works fine with XP64. WTF.

It's just toying with your mind!  Unfortunately I haven't played with 
the NVMe's yet so I can't help there.


 KM> Well, I guess I just swap their OSs. And get to use my preferred
 KM> XP for everyday. <g>

When life gives you lemons....


 KM> Unless someone can show me how to get linux to gracefully allow
 KM> network access to its precious hard drives... PCLOS runs lovely
 KM> on both of 'em, but it's very annoying to be stuck with only ONE
 KM> network drive that it will access (I don't know how I did that,
 KM> either) and refusing to let anyone else see its own naughty bits.

I'm using VNC here but limited experience.  Have been going from this 
system to a couple of the Raspberry Pi's.  Have been able to do 
read/write of their SDcards, which I suppose is similar to a hard drive 
over a network.  

...Right_click, Properties, Local Network Share tab.  More for a 
specific directory than the hard drive in total.


 KM> Oh... and never ever not EVER change the "use optimized defaults"
 KM> setting on a Lenovo. If it ain't broke, don't touch it. You Have
 KM> Been Warned. If you change it (hoping to fool the desired OS into
 KM> installing, because Lenovo Support suggested looking at this
 KM> setting) and if your vidcard is not BRAND FREAKIN' NEW, you will experience
 KM> an apparently-bricked system, until you try a BRAND
 KM> FREAKIN' NEW vidcard out of sheer desperation. (Well, new enough
 KM> to know newfangled BIOS stuff, anyway.) Per Lenovo Support, the
 KM> function comes factory-preset to Do Certain Settings, and if it
 KM> disagrees with any bit of hardware, the result Does Not Work.

"Optimized" seems to mean "best results with the original way we shipped
it".


 KM> And how was YOUR day? :D
 
Apparently better than yours!

 
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