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From: "R.Wieser" <address@not.available>
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Subject: Re: Explorer filename sorting - disable ignoring of the hyphen ("-")
char ?
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:18:24 +0200
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microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:31840
VanguardLH,
> Yep, Microsoft handles the hyphen a bit weird, like they ignore it.
....
> To get the same order using the 'dir' command, you have to add
> the /on argument, as in:
Thanks for confirming my posted observations.
> They are doing something goofy regarding non-alphanumeric
> characters.
Yep, that was my conclusion too. It might well be only the hyphen symbol
though, but who knows.
When wrote the above I realized I did not even search for an MS explanation
to this sorting behaviour. Alas, a quick search did not turn up anything in
that regard ...
And that brings me back to my initial question: How do I get Windows to drop all
kinds of fancy sorting rules and revert to (something like) ASCII order
?
.... though I would not mind if upper and lowercase differences are ignored
(man, I do not make it easy, do I ? :-D )
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional message:
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> schreef in berichtnieuws
dlti27F7ubkU1@mid.individual.net...
> R.Wieser wrote:
> > My previous subject "Explorer filename sorting problem - NoStrCmpLogical
> > already present" has evolved into a much simpler one: How do I get XP's
> > explorer (but the "dir" command too!) to stop ignoring the minus sign
inside
> > filenames
> > 60.00.00.32.dds
> > 60.00.00.32.msh
> > 60.00.00.32.nif
> > 60.00.32.32.dds
> > 60.00.-32.32.dds
> > 60.00.32.32.msh
> > 60.00.-32.32.msh
> > 60.00.32.32.nif
> > 60.00.-32.32.nif
> > the reason why the above is "sorted" as it is -- with the third column
> > showing an interleaved "33" and "-32" -- is because the minus sign is
> > regarded as a hyphen (a word-coupling character) and ignored. The above
> > list than translates to:
> > 60.00.00.32.dds
> > 60.00.00.32.msh
> > 60.00.00.32.nif
> > 60.00.32.32.dds
> > 60.00.32.32.dds
> > 60.00.32.32.msh
> > 60.00.32.32.msh
> > 60.00.32.32.nif
> > 60.00.32.32.nif
> > ... which makes (some sort of) sense.
> > But as those "-" characters inthge first list are *NOT* hypens (but
> > minus-signs) that second list isn't reflecting the meaning of the
filenames
> > contents. :-(
> > tl;dr:
> > How do I get XP's explorer (and "dir" command too) to stop ignoring the
> > minus sign inside filenames.
> > Or more in general: How do I stop it from treating *any* character
> > specially, and just sort all of them on their binary value.
> Had some more time to play. Yep, Microsoft handles the hyphen a bit
> weird, like they ignore it. They are doing something goofy regarding
> non-alphanumeric characters.
> What I did was to replace the hyphen with a different non-alphanumeric
> character, like tilde, underscore, or backquote, so the list looks like:
> 60.00.~32.32.nif 60.00._32.32.nif 60.00.`32.32.nif 60.00.~32.32.dds
> 60.00._32.32.dds 60.00.`32.32.dds 60.00.~32.32.msh 60.00._32.32.msh
> 60.00.`32.32.msh
> 60.00.00.32.dds 60.00.00.32.dds 60.00.00.32.dds
> 60.00.00.32.msh or 60.00.00.32.msh or 60.00.00.32.msh
> 60.00.00.32.nif 60.00.00.32.nif 60.00.00.32.nif
> 60.00.32.32.dds 60.00.32.32.dds 60.00.32.32.dds
> 60.00.32.32.msh 60.00.32.32.msh 60.00.32.32.msh
> 60.00.32.32.nif 60.00.32.32.nif 60.00.32.32.nif
> To get the same order using the 'dir' command, you have to add the /on
> argument, as in:
> dir /on
> (or 'dir /o-n' if you descend sort in Windows Explorer).
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