Hi Ed!
BM> Friend from Nevada sent this link on how to permanently files. First
EV> -snip-
BM> http://www.popsci.com/permanently-delete-files?CMPID=ene082217&spMailing
BM> ID=30279567&spUserID=NTIzMjcwMTk4MjYwS0&spJobID=1102570587&spReportId=MT
BM> EwMjU3MDU4NwS2
BM> Now for the get-around-to!
EV> I found the ROUNDTUIT and read the Popular Science article.
EV> Thanks!
BM> Glad to be of assistance!
EV> I've learn many things from many people.
EV> It was because I saw Nancy writing to You in the IL_ChitChat echo
EV> conference that I started writing to You there.
The good news is I also have learned a lot, some times minor trivia,
some times some reather important items. Over the years have kept a lot
of messages, or portions of messages, with "information of interest". Probably
most is now outdated, but don't have the (and don't want to)
take the time to go through and remove -- might gain a whole 10 GB. For
the cost of storage not worth it.
EV> Mike Powell, This BBS's SysOp has messages from many BBS Networks
EV> that I can LURK at.
EV> Iirc, My first message in there was a 'crack' at something Nancy
EV> wrote, but I might be wrong. And don't say "Nah!" in Your Reply,
EV> I'm here, I Know.
We drew you out of your lurk mode -- isn't it more fun out here?!
EV> I knew that ERASER was available for that job.
EV> I didn't see any mention of DBAN, but I learned that RECUVA also
EV> can 'obscure'.
BM> I'll add those to the original notes.
EV> My method is to click on the filename in XP's Windows Explorer
EV> and then press the Shift KEY and the Delete KEY to bypass the
EV> Trashbin.
BM> Don't know if there is an equivalent shortcut for Linux; seems like the
BM> file would still be recoverable as all <delete> does is mark the
BM> sectors the file occupies as a available.
EV> I will ask Paul Quinn in the WIN95 echo, He uses Linux, I've only
EV> dabbled with Ubuntu and looked at Mint.
OK, thanks.
EV> Yes, I know the files information is still on my HDD but I'm not
EV> too much worried if someone other than me wanted to recover the
EV> file(s).
BM> Oh - I keep forgetting I'm supposed to read ahead! I have some semi-
BM> sensitive information on my HDDs which would be a major bother for me
BM> to correct/undo if recovered and used by the wrong type of person.
EV> Some things I keep on a Floppy Disk, even thought probably traces
EV> of it are still somewhere on this XP pc.
EV> When I want to access those files I use the USB Floppy Drive I
EV> bought at Radio Shack a few days after I bought this XP box.
Good Grief! I haven't used floppies in ages! Probably relatively safe
as almost no one has a FDD to read one!
EV> I am a retired Civil Service employee, I'm not going to do
EV> something that would mess up my Pension or the portion of the
EV> annuity my wife would receive.
BM> No, that would be stupid! ...Though I worked retail for years and
BM> years and some of the things customers do...... L.P. caught a wanted
BM> criminal with some pretty hefty charges just because he shoplifted a
BM> $9.99 t-shirt!
EV> Habits are habits, aren't they? Good that L.P. was watching when
EV> He did it.
The Police thought so!
EV> I may be dumb but I'm not stupid.
BM> <chuckle>
EV> It's the TRUTH!
EV> The Phrase I used comes from a story someone told me at work one
EV> day.
EV> A tire blew out on a road alongside a Insane Asylum.
EV> The driver saw a man looking at him from behind the fence and was
EV> afraid to get out of the car.
EV> After sitting in the car for a long time the man in the car
EV> thought "if that guy tried to climb the fence I would still have
EV> time to jump back in the car, so I'll get out and change my tire.
EV> The man inside the fence watched him jack the car up and take the
EV> flat tire off and put the spare tire on the hub.
EV> Then the driver looked around for the lug nuts but couldn't find
EV> them anywhere around.
EV> He thought: what am I going to do now?, there isn't anyone to ask
EV> for help but that crazy guy behind the fence, but I will go ahead
EV> and ask him.
EV> The driver walked towards the fence and asked - what would you do
EV> if you had a flat tire and couldn't find the lug nuts to put the
EV> spare on? The man behind the fence told him "I would go and take
EV> one lug nut off of the other three wheels and use them until you
EV> can get somewhere to buy some lug nuts.
EV> The driver said to the man behind the fence - I thought all of
EV> the people in there were crazy.
EV> The guy inside the fence told him - "Yes we are, but we're not
EV> stupid.".
<Chuckle> Actually is another example of Outside The Box Thinking.
Probably not safe to be rolling down the highway at 60 MPH with one
lugnut missing from each tire but with caution will get to one's
destination.
EV> I stayed around the Popular Science site and read a few more
EV> articles before writing this Reply.
BM> What?! You get side-tracked too!!
EV> Lurkers are lurkers, You know.
I would have though more of a thirst for knowledge.
EV> I subscribed to Popular Science in the Mid-1970's, but that was
EV> the time before I got a Commodore 64 in 1984.
BM> When I was living out East a friend of the family subscribed and
BM> usually gave the issue to me after he was done. Out here I subscribed
BM> to Popular Electronics for a number of years, with lots of intentions
BM> to build projects when I had more money and time.
EV> I learned a lot from reading Pop'Tronics and Radio-Electronics
EV> articles. My first issues of Pop'Tronics were the small sized
EV> books.
EV> Iirc it was Popular Science who first printed their magazines in
EV> the larger size, and all of the other publishers started printing
EV> the larger magazines. Am I close to being right?
That I don't recall, The only magazine I'm remembering being small was
Reader's Digest. Most magazines, including Popular Science and Radio-
Electronics were the 'usual' size, and some magazines like Life were the
'huge' size.
EV> I was in Elementry School when my Teacher took the class on a
EV> Field Trip to the Library.
EV> The Librarian(?) said the boys in the group might like looking at
EV> the Popular Mechanics or Mechanics Illustrated magazines.
EV> I don't think Popular Science was published in the 1950's when I
EV> was at the Library.
Ah! That might be why I don't recall the smaller versions of the
magazines: I wasn't born until the 1950's.
EV> I subscribe to Mechanics Illustrated magazine when I was in the
EV> 5th Grade. One article I still remember was about the General
EV> Electric Company had created a very tiny Drill Bit and sent one
EV> of them to Switzerland for the Swiss to write back their praises
EV> for the newly created Precision Drill Bit.
EV> The Swiss sent the Drill Bit back to GE with a hole drilled
EV> through it.
Ha-ha!!
EV> Hmmm, I got long winded, didn't I? Nuff Said.
You may have learned that habit from me!
EV> P.S. The message I wrote last night had a TYPO, I missed the
EV> letter U in Graduate, gradate is a real word but quite different,
EV> isn't it?
Well, the graduate does gradate his or her knowledge level!
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