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Subject: Re: obamas gun fight Date: Sun Jan 17 2016 07:27 pm
From: alexander koryagin To: Tim Richardson

Hi, Tim Richardson!
I read your message from 14.01.2016 19:28

  ak>>>> Small arms is useless for that purpose.
  TR>>> What makes you think all we've got is `small arms'?

  ak>> If the army use tanks, bombers, satellite, drones, spying
  ak>> equipment where can buy it? If you catch a tank it will be
  ak>> destroyed by a bomber withing minutes.

  TR> The cops in this country have military vehicles of sorts, even
  TR> armored personnel carriers.

  TR> One such up in Los Angeles was even equipped with a long battering
  TR> ram for breaking down the heavily reinforced doors of drug houses.

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I don't doubt that the cops are equipped very well. But we talk about 
common people's "right to keep and bear arms ... to keep an armed 
citizenry able to resist and overthrow a tyrannical government."

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  TR>>> Yeah well... we like our guns, and we don't give a hoot in hell
  TR>>> what foreigners think about that.
  ak>> Such thoughts are probably spoken not only by the foreigners.
  ak>> There are many Americans who think that if people do not feel
  ak>> themselves safe without feeling guns with their buttocks there is
  ak>> something very wrong in such a country.

  TR> And they would be those who not only don't mind living life on
  TR> their knees, at the mercy of aggressors, but want everyone else to
  TR> live life on their knees as well.

  TR> Trouble is... pretty much all those who whine about ordinary
  TR> Americans owning their own guns, standing at a microphone
  TR> thundering against the Second Amendment, are usually surrounded by
  TR> plain clothes body guards who are armed to the teeth!

The only hope is that they follow their promises given during the 
election campaign. They could demand gun restriction on behalf their  electorate
only. So democracy must show itself.

  TR>>> Convicted felons, some misdemeanor convictions, and those who
  TR>>> have been in mental institutions are usually caught in a
  TR>>> background check for a firearm purchase.

  ak>> If a person hasn't been in a mental hospital during his life it
  ak>> doesn't mean he is healthy mentally. That is the way how nutcases
  ak>> acquire submachine guns.

  TR> So what?

The easier is a buying procedure the more chances for crazy persons to 
get armed. So, a heavy restriction is not a bad idea. After all a 
restriction is not a prohibition.

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  ak>> Do you think it would be good if people also carry sabers and
  ak>> daggers? It is even less powerful weapon for self-defence than
  ak>> guns.

  TR> Islamic fanatics `go off' with swords and knives all the time,
  TR> slashing and stabbing people. I'd prefer having a. 44 special in my
  TR> pocket than a pocket knife in that scenario.

They can think in this way also.

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  TR> Not a single teacher was armed and able to engage a gunman who was
  TR> `harming the children'.

  TR> At Sandy Hook even the security guard was `un'armed! And the
  TR> children died!

I think that the probability that a teacher will kill his students in 
temper is higher than the probability he will defend them from a 
terrorist. :) A teacher should be unarmed, as a researcher who is going 
to study savages in the jungle. More chances for negotiations. :)

Bye, Tim!
Alexander Koryagin
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