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Subject: [ANSI] Re: Kamala Date: Fri Aug 09 2024 04:44 pm
From: halian To: paulie420

 pa>  Da>  Project 2025 is Trump's Policy.  

 pa> Thats completely untrue - he told us as much a day after this misinformati
 pa> hit mainstream... I would assume that you don't believe his statements - b
 pa> I'd assume it lands somewhere more in the middle; I don't think Trump supp
 pa> the ENTIRE 2025 policy - but could agree with you that some of his stances
 pa> would align with it. I don't, however, think he is as radical as the entir
 pa> 700+ page text.

I'm going to press X to doubt. Project 2025 and Agenda 47 very closely parallel
each other on all fronts.

 pa>  Da> One of the most terrifying things he wants to do is change a large ch
 pa>  Da> of low level federal civil service workers from standard hires to
 pa>  Da> political appointees, so they can install loyal cult members into the
 pa>  Da> positions.

 pa> Why is that terrifying; when every other politician from Biden to Obama to
 pa> and beyond does the EXACT same thing?? I could understand if you don't agr
 pa> with these appointees - but this is the nature of the beast...

"Political appointee" has a specific meaning under federal administrative
law. It means:

- that they are appointed by the President, Vice President, or
agency head, instead of hired through the usual process for federal civil
servants;
- that they are required to take an ethics pledge not to accept gifts
from lobbyists, in accordance with Executive Order 13490; that, if they were
appointed by the President, they may not receive *any* income from outside
employment or activities, per EO 12674 sec. 102; and
- that they are not part of the competitive service, exceptive service, or
Senior Executive Service (the three classes of federal civil servant), though
they may transfer to one of them ("burrow in") with the advance approval of the
Office of Personnel Management, and such conversions are periodically audited by
the Government Accountability Office.

 pa>  Da> Trump tried to do this with Exectuive order Schedule F
 pa>  Da> https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-o
 pa>  Da> ing-schedule-f-excepted-service/

 pa>  Da> Biden recinded it 3 days after he took office, so it didn't go into
 pa>  Da> effect.

 pa> [snip]

 pa> I agree with this sentiment.... why wouldn't we?

Changing low-level civil service positions to political appointments /en
masse/ would unwind 141 years of civil service laws and regulations that serve
to prevent a scenario exactly like this, namely the reïmplementation of a spoils
system. It may well just plain old violate them (IANAL, of course.)
Additionally, Schedule F civil servants would have effectively been under
at-will employment, which would deprive them of the protections against adverse
personnel actions enshrined in those laws and regulations.

 pa>  Da> And no matter how much Trump tries to distance himself from Project
 pa>  Da> 2025, is absolutely is his policy. nearly everyone he surrounds himse
 pa>  Da> with is involved with it in some way.  

 pa> Hard disagree - he told us as much...

Breaking news: he lied. The only reason Chris LaCivita called Project 2025 a
pain in the ass was that it attracted exactly the sort and level of attention to
the GOP manifesto (read: Project 2025 with the serial numbers filed off) that
they *don't* want.

                                                                      -╠╣âlian 

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