> I don't think trump has division practices.
> i think obama and the democrats started it and they are still going strong wit
> it. he has issues with politicians on both sides but he does not cause the
> american people to fight one another. he does not create names like 'maga
> republicans' etc for people to focus their hate on.
He may not have created "maga republicans" but I know plenty of Trump supporters
who identify as just that, so I am not sure we can blame that on democrats,
either. Many of those "MAGA republicans" are just to open to
ideas that don't align with their own as your typical leftists, i.e. they
are not at all open.
Obama sure went head-first into division politics, but Trump has said and done
alot to put targets on people who don't go along with his way, i.e. "RINO,"
which has helped keep at least Congress pretty divided.
>> I don't think it is that bad yet. Now, let him lose again and, even if it >>
is clear cut legit, if he acts like he did last time then yeah we will have >>
problems.
> trump acted like that because he trolled his way into the office.
> it was very effective for him. that being said, he made a lot of excellent
> executive orders and mad a lot of improvements in the country.
He had a lot of successful policies. He should have stood on those instead
of the "they stole the election" mantra that has been at the front of
things for the past 4 years.
There was no reason to act as he did when he lost.
> this is while the media spent their time attacking him 100% and the democratic
> party doing nothing but attack him. they even neglected their legislative
> duties because they were always so focused on him.
Initially, the press was pretty much on attack but he seemed to be able to
work some with the Democrats. Something happened that changed that. IIRC,
someone made fun of Pelosi and Schumer after they worked with Trump on
something, Trump also poked fun at it, and they got pissed. It would be
more logical that it was something more significant than that, but it
happened at the same time.
> now he's a felon and it means nothing. he probably won't get prison time but
> who knows.
To his supporters, that means nothing. To Democrats, Independents, and other
never-Trumpers, it does. To how many Independents and undecideds it makes
a difference to, I am not sure, but I do believe that will determine the outcome
of the election.
> mean tweets. big fucking deal. dude handled other countries well and those
> trump years were great.
See above regarding to whom that would be a big deal.
Financially, if you had your money in a 401k with less volitile
stock choices, you probably made out like a bandit during 2017-19. You may also
have in volitile stocks, too. If you were real smart and decided to move a lot
of the money out of stocks and into safer things that guarantee a return (albeit
a much lower one) at the first sounds of COVID, you probably also did well.
Since 2020, you are probably back to breaking even, at best, just like you might
have been (if you were lucky) under Obama. Folks who say they are
doing better than they were 2017-19 are either really lucky, really good at
moving money around, or they are in the "no more meant tweets = better" crowd.
> i hate sounding like a trump fan boy because i'm not. i just hate the other
> guys so much more. i'm not even into politics. i'm just sick of living in
> world of shit.
I am not a fan of anyone right now. Never was, but I did think Trump
didn't do a bad job as President. It was what he did immediately after
that I find very questionable.
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