Hi Ky!
> > Apparantly the 18.04 and 20.04 systems here are running the default
> > Xorg based on a quick Google search. I wasn't able able to quickly find
> KM> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/x-xorg-an
> KM> d-x11-866327/
> Apparantly they've been working on it for a while: "(though Ubuntu is working
> on migrating to a different system called Wayland)" from the
> March 3, 2011 post.
KM> Yeah, we've all been working on the switch to Wayland for a Long
KM> Time. <goes off, looks around> Distrowatch doesn't have Wayland
KM> vs X11 far as I can find in the search-for-a-distro function, but
KM> ... a list:
KM> Fedora.
KM> Debian.
KM> openSUSE Tumbleweed.
KM> PureOS.
KM> Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
KM> SUSE Enterprise Linux.
IIRC Ubuntu is based on Debian, but then that also means "is an
offspring so can be somewhat different".
KM> Also I think Mageia has switched, or lets you select it at login.
At this point I'll stay with the defaults. ...Hmm: get the new system
up and running could use this one to play with Wayland to see the
difference.
KM> And then if you want your brain to hurt,
KM> https://www.dz-techs.com/en/using-linux-with-wayland
When they say "screen recording" do the mean to do a video presentation
and record the mouse moving and the text being typed or a passive screen
shot? (I do a lot of screen shots.)
KM> There's a good video on why Wayland is a huge design improvement
KM> (not nearly as slow and crufty), but getting the bugs out is a
KM> different matter. Remote desktop and nVidia support are
KM> apparently still a crapshoot.
Saw that in the DZ-Techs post. nVidia seems to be a little iffy: LIS I
had upgraded my old laptop from 18.04 to 20.04 and the nVidia driver
stopped working. ...I haven't investigated further as the laptop isn't
used that frequently. On a different system might be a top-of-the-pile
job!
KM> Not this one, but it has a quick overview:
KM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM
KM> Found this:
KM> The quickest (and fun) way to check if you are using Xorg or
KM> Wayland in GNOME 3 using GUI. Press Alt + F2 type r and smash
KM> Enter . If it show the error "Restart is not available on
KM> Wayland" img, sorry, you are using Wayland. If it work as expect
KM> (restart GNOME Shell), congrats, you are using Xorg.
So if it says 'Wayland' then can be reasonable sure that system is using
Wayland! <"chic derriere" -- that's French for 'smart <rump>!!>
> > <laffing to self> Remember the old King Kong/Godzilla type movies?
> > Actor's mouth moves, then hear what saying (translation of course).
> KM> Or anything from Bollywood today :D
> Wonder if the instructor has sent a dancer to the rest room to wash their
> hands for posing improperly? Each/most positionings are supposed to
> mean something.
KM> I thought they got sent to wash their hands for signing
KM> profanity!!
That's what I had meant but didn't come out clearly.
> KM> drivercollection.com is great for Windows (and there are several
> KM> other similar driver archives), but I don't know of any
> KM> equivalent for linux... either the hardware vendor has something,
> KM> the kernel has something, or you're SOL.
> I haven't stumbled across any collection site either.
KM> Choice is good, except when there's none!!
But that makes choosing so much simpler!!
> > True: sort of an off-target example but had a bad RAM stick on this
> > system when I was bringing it up. Installer would just stop. Probably
> > didn't know how to get around the problem.
> KM> That's a critical stop no matter what program or OS is running.
> What was 'funny' is sometime it did manage to do the installation --
> usually the 'Try Me' option -- and actually run - for a short while.
> Other times very quickly halted. Guess all where the data was placed at
> the time.
KM> Cuz somewhat random when it ran into the bad memory address,
KM> depending on what crap had already used memory so it had to go
KM> there.
Right: the MEM86+ testing always found the bad spot quickly -- within
about a minute which I took as the 'lower' or maybe 'upper'part of the
memory depending on which way it started. It would seem the
installation process would also have problems the same place but maybe
the RAM's segment was marked 'available' or not depending on if a power
boot or simply a reboot or something. (Big 'Black Box', can you tell?!)
KM> My old 286 has a bad RAM chip and whenever some app sucked up too
KM> much RAM (such as changing font in WordPerfect), it would hit
KM> that bad chip and crash. Figured out the affected address, locked
KM> it out in the DOS memory manager, and it never crashed again.
KM> Fair trade for the 16k of lost RAM, or whatever it was.
That'll work! My XT had a utility to test its memory (little black
'chicklets' on the motherboard!) and would pinpoint exactly which pin of
the IC was the problem on ASCII diagram! Remove the IC with a chip
puller, swap in the new one.
> > KM> Dunno about now but in the olden days it was thus:
> > KM> Briggs and Stratton generator, buck-naked and noisy, $800.
> > Now all sorts of fancy stuff: noise reduction (somewhat), interlocks,
> > WiFi to remotely check status....
> KM> And to allow hackers access! <g>
> Nah: they access through the remote-read option of the electric, gas
> and water meters!
KM> Oh, that sounds easier, thanks. <g>
Why are the lights dimming in a Morse Code pattern?
> Our generator is outside towards the back corner of the house because of
> window placement ==> if the window is open don't want the exhaust drawn
> into the house.
KM> Oh, yeah, whole neighborhood can enjoy... <g>
The engine noise or the engine exhaust?!
KM> I don't have anyone close enough to matter, and besides the
KM> trains go by at all hours of the day and night, and drown out
KM> anything short of nuclear war.
(Must be noise.) Can hear the trains travelling along the Mississippi
River up here -- only a dozen blocks. Sometimes if hits the sleep cycle
right in the middle of the night will hear the trains as they go into
the distance. Doppler Effect (?) kicks in as they go though curves in
the track.
> > > Have seen pellet stoves; that's about it: seen 'em! LIS the house
a
> > KM> Yeah, seen 'em! <g>
> > Not feel 'em? -- I see the flames but don't feel any warmth!
> KM> I didn't stick my hand inside....
> Probably a smart non-move!
KM> Things I don't regret not doing. <g>
Sometimes it's good not to do something!
> > KM> Not especially, but it really doesn't go very far. NG is better
> > KM> when you've got the choice.
> > Theoretically unlimited supply as long as nothing happens to the
> > distribution system!
> KM> Yeah, that. So long as no one busts a pipe or turns off a valve,
> KM> it should keep working.
> Right. Hundreds of potential failure points; still have the old back-up
> items: hurricane lanterns, flashlights....
KM> I used to have a flashlight that you cranked to charge the
KM> batteries. About one minute of cranking for five minutes of
KM> light. Dunno what became of it but until the batteries got too
KM> tired, it worked quite well. Would still work if you didn't mind
KM> continuously cranking.
Yes, we have one of those -- I think it also has a radio. Never used it
in an emergency as the hurricane laterns, flashlights, and battery packs worked.
Also battery-powered TVs.
> > KM> LOL, yeah :) I've thought about solar panels just to support the
> > KM> computers, figuring since their power goes through a UPS, it
> > KM> might not matter so much where it comes from.
> > I don't think this house has enough running roof to make solar panels
> > worthwhile. I do have some 'camping' solar panels; was going to do
> KM> Probably not for the whole house, but I have a very convenient
> KM> SW-facing roof area that would support enough for all the PCs and
> KM> similar crap.
> That would probably work. I'd add in backup power for the refrigerator
> - have a freezer? Could possibly run one at a time to save on the
> overall load. Also figure for air conditioning and heat.
KM> Two fridges and a freezer. But the idea is not to deal with
KM> blackouts but rather to take the more-optional stuff off the
KM> regular power bill as much as practical.
That would help pay for the solar installation costs!
KM> It would take at least a couple days for my little freezer to
KM> start seriously thawing. Five hours in summer made no difference
KM> at all. Benefit of being packed full, cuz it's only about 7
KM> cu-ft. And in winter... it's a manual defrost so it sits outside,
KM> and won't warm up unless the power is off til May. <g>
Haven't done it here but I vaguely recall either my parents actually
doing it or talking about it (planning) of putting some of the food
outside.
> KM> And there's also the barn roof that faces the same way.
> Darn! Forgot about the shed's roof! 8x10' storage building for the lawn
> mower, etc., so whatever surface area that gives the roof. Trouble is
> the neighbour's trees block the sunlight.
KM> My barn needs more of that shade, actually... panels would work
KM> for shade!
I've seen pictures of solar farms with animals clustered underneath for
shade.
> > And possibly snakes, though might be more for stacked wood.
> KM> Haven't seen that but I did pull bark off a stump and out jumps a
> KM> garter snake!! How the heck did you get in that little crack??
> I can flatten my ribs and pretend I'm a mouse!
KM> It had been mighty flat. The space under the bark was less than
KM> 1/4 inch.
I've heard of flatworms but not flatsnakes!
> > KM> However, I do have a large number of dead UPS batteries. When
> > KM> Things Fall Apart, lead will be valuable! <g>
> > Staple all those the little sheets together to protect from the
> > radiation!
> KM> I have enough for a very nice lead suit. <g>
> And your aluminum foil hat will go nicely!
KM> Very stylish, and not so heavy. <g>
Took off the lead trim, did you?
> .. I never wear a tinfoil hat: it keeps me from hearing the little voices.
KM> Ah, I knew there was a reason...
You thought it was 'cause mussed my hair!
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